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Mailbag and musings . . . Issue #57, BPAN

Editor's preface -- the Sept. '97 Kitplanes article brought us a bunch of new members and I've written author Don Downie to tell him "thanks" for exposing the wonderful world of Pietenpol to so many newcomers. Of course, it's also brought the usual numbers who see the need to "improve" the designs of Bernard Pietenpol. You know, adding wings, doors, Belchfire power plants, a little weight here, a little weight there, etc., etc. I say give these guys and their ideas due consideration; maybe 70 years from now they and their creations will have a faithful and wonderful following like the BPA. Maybe not. I just got back from Brodhead where I got to fly with Ted Davis behind the "A" in Mehlin Smith's old Air Camper. I wonder how many of these guys with "improvements" on the brain have ever had such a wonderful experience? Improvements? Yeah, right! . . . gem

Robert Haudenschild (1491 Williams Street, Tulare CA 93274) wrote back in January "On page 6, issue #54, page Terry Kleeblatt (501 Garrett St., Fountain Inn SC 29644) asked if anyone had ever used 65 hp Lycoming engine or not. Well, I have -- and it works dandy. I extended my fuselage nine inches forward of the 1932 Flying and Glider Manual edition. Tell Terry to keep both of those 65 hp Lycs; use one for spare parts, as the price of new ones are out of this world. Robert also sent us a copy of the Kitplanes article on Mark Anderson's Air Camper. We've posted that excellent article on the Internet and, thanks to Michael Cuy, its fine color picture, too.

Dear Sir: Please find enclosed a $12.00 US funds money order for a membership to your organization. I am building a Corvair powered Piet. 3-blade 60 inch warpdrive prop.I have it on it's gear, wings on (not covered), working on controls now. I have been at it off and on for 4.5 years now, long overdue in joining the B.P.A. Have run the engine a bit on a test stand in my shop and it sounds great.I rebuilt the engine with stock parts and will be using two of the original 4 carbs (l40 hp. engine.) I had the local high school machine the crankshaft and he also made the prop hub out of a solid piece of 6 inch 6066t6 aluminum. I have recently been on the Internet, where I have been reading parts of your newsletters; I really enjoy them. Can't wait to recieve the mailings. I hope it will give me the inspiration to complete my project. Thanks for now. P. S. I have never seen a piet. fly before. Doug Hunt (PO Box 171 Alix Alta Canada T0C 0B0)

(4/8/97) Dear Grant, Eric Smith here to let you know I have recentlv sold my Plet. project to a local man named Larry Feraeson. My Piet was basically finished except for building the cowling and covering. It was very hard selling what I have put so much effort and time into, but I am currently working for Southwest Airlines at Hobby Airport in Houston and restoring a Penn Yan mohogany runabout boat. (similer to a Chris Craft from 1939). I want to thank all the people at Brodhead in 94' & 95', and all the folks that took time to listen and answer questions we all have from time to time. I achieved my GOAL to build the Piet and had fun doing this. Thank you all. Eric Smith P.S. Jim Doherty was my A&P Instructor at Rice Aviation in Houston in 1980.I had talked to him over the phone a long while back, He will be missed.

Grant, Thanks for the confirmation note. Address (5060 Stauffer, SE - Kentwood MI 49508) looks good. I have an "extended" fuselage coming along. The structural members are all in, but still need to add the fairing strips. Have had great help from my accomplice Pete Mellema. Will send you a photo to show off the results of our efforts. And many thanks for the incredible job you do keeping so many of us informed. Dick

(4/9/97) Hi Grant, I'm about a month behind schedule. Hurt my back twice, once before our Pietenpol Party and once after. Picked up the paint last Wed. I'm just about ready to close the fuselage. It should be completly covered by the end of April. Paint in May and roll out in June. It will not however be ready for Brussels. Next year for sure. I also hope to come to Brodhead in a gaggle with Jack, Brian, Peter and Tom should also be ready. Do you think we could get a few Piets south of the border to come to Brussels? Hope to see you at Brussels. Regards, Domenico Bellissimo

(4/16/97) Mr. Maclaren, I want to thank you for putting together such a wonderful web-page for the Pietenpol. I'm sure if Grandpa Orrin had access to it, he would constantly be on the on-line discussions helping out where he could. I have always loved and cherished the Piets, and now, while I'm away from Brodhead and up at school, I can still relive the sights and sounds of Air Campers and Sky Scouts sputtering through the air. Thanks again, Jason Hoopman <1@tc.umn.edu>

Hi Grant, I received the video in the mail on Friday. VERY entertaining. My only complaint is it's too short. Two hours of this stuff might have satisfied me. But, since it was 15 - 20 minutes long I just played it over and over again for two hours :-) . . . Well, back to work on my Air Camper, 20 ribs done - 8 to go. Thanks again for the great tape. Greg Cardinal (5236 Shoreview Ave So., Minneapolis, MN 55417)

Mike Camp (Box 31219, Whitehorse, Yukon, Canada Y1A 5P7) wrote in early April: "Please find enclosed my membership fee to join the BPA. I am hoping to begin construction of my Air Camper this fall. As I am rather remote from other Pietenpol sources, any back issues of the newsletters you can send will be greatly appreciated.

Jay Hurley (RFD #2, Box 833, Shepherdstown WV) tells us Chaper 1077 will be building a Pietenpol. They've got plans from Don Pietenpol and will be using a Continental 65 hp engine.

(4/17/97) Hello Grant! . . . I've really enjoyed reading and rereading the issues. I've even been over hauling our old tablesaw to do a little ripping for capstrips, etc for the tail feathers. I'll send you a picture of my peanut-sized "Piet" (13" span) when it gets finished - the building time for it should be fairly short! Take care! Mike Conkling (21806 S. Broadacres Rd., Pretty Prairie, KS 67570)

Bill Wilson (10020 Sam Peterson Rd., Oak Grove MO 64075) reported in April: "Still working on Piet when I can; have all the parts made and assembled except left wing. Hope to get that wing completed by July, then start covering. Still trying to decide what covering to use."

(5/7/97) email - I was looking for Mark Anderson's e-mail address so I could thank him for the picture of his Pietenpol. I am using it on my web site along with a link to the BPA's web site. I hope he doesn't mind. It is an incredible picture! I almost have butterflies just looking at it. I'd have to say it has instilled a renewed passion in me to get my project started again. I am going to get back to work on it very soon. Thanks for the terrific web site. I'll be visiting often as things progress. If you care to see my site it's http://www.ez-net.com/~andersons/steve/ keeping in mind it's geared for very local access. Thanks again Steven J. Anderson If you could forward my comments and thanks to Mark it would be much appreciated.

email from Jim Van Dervort - Man things get slow for me when school is getting out or any other "byte" action. Takes me about five minutes to download the BPAN page. Got a letter from Billy Pooooobah the other day. He was chastising me for not going to Cherry Grove with the guys. I had sorta hoped that no one would notice. It seems that a battery is necessary on the General Motors type of Piet. Mine totally failed that PM and they are not plentiful in B'head. So, I'll go this year. I always was a little behind. Well, I was never little THERE, maybe I should say that I was slow!

Ed Ripplinger (23569 Suttons Bay Dr., Clinton Twp. MI 48036) reports 47173 is about ready to leave the garage and head for the field -- and better than that, Ed is feeling much better and has his medical!

"I am building a Pietenpol Air Camper from the "Piet" plans, with a lot of "suggestions" from builders who have built and flown." So says Ed Cleary (624 Leisure World, Mesa AZ 85206)

5/5/97 Dear Mr. Maclaren, I'm an old airplane nut, or should a say a nut about old airplanes, and have always loved the old homebuilts. I'm about to move to South Carolina where I will have a brand new hangar and plenty of space in which to build. So after owning a Flybaby, an EAA biplane, and a Teenie Too, I've decided to build a Pietenpol. I've already spent hours visiting the BPA web site and have copied numerous pages of notes, names, and addresses from it. It's an unbelievable site and your members seem extreme congenial ready to help one another at the drop of a hat. So, I'd like to join BPA and also to get a copy of your "Building Tips." A 3 1/2 inch floppy for a PC system using Word Perfect 6.0 would be perfect. But a plain old Xerox copy would also be fine. I saw your answer to the question about the biplane version of the Piet, so I won't ask you about that. But what about using an O290 on the plane? I have most of the pieces to put one together and wondered if it would be worth pursuing? I have enclosed a check for my membership and your Tips. I hope to go to Brodhead and look forward to meeting you and some of the other BPA members. Sincerely, Jack F. Holgate (1100 Forest Drive, Hartsville SC 29550) Telephone: (803) 383-8733

(5/16/97) via email -- Putting you sort of up-to-date - Grant: As the British would say, I posted you a cheque on Tuesday, the 13th, so you will no doubt receive this before it gets there. We had a call from Abilene, KS on the 8th of December. It was Ted Davis and he was ferrying a Husky to Sky Harbor in Phoenix. He stopped over here for a while, and we had lunch together and he had a "Viewing" the Pietenpol fuselage. Sure good to see him! That brings me to the next subject; a group of the Aeronautical Department guys got together in October, and extricated the Pietenpol from the second floor workshop where it has been built. This was an office and mezzanine floor in one of the college's old B-47 nose dock hangars. It was quite an operation getting it through a window onto a fork lift. Especially with the one-piece wing! At any rate it all went to the ground level without being the first homebuilt to crash before it was flown! The last week-end in October, our EAA chapter had an exhibit at one of the malls, and it was more-or-less the centerpiece. The Pietenpol project is now in a couple of "T" hangars. The fuselage is in the hangar with my Skyranger, which I sold to a friend (I hope) of mine, and who teaches at the college, so it will stay in town. Grant: I have a lot of "stuff" which has been removed from the workshop, including a bunch of Corvair engine parts. Some of them are good and some of them are junk, but just can't throw them in the dumpster, as difficult as it is to find Corvair parts now. If I remember, there are parts from all three sizes (displacement) engines. I would be happy to pass these parts on to someone who would be willing to pick them up. All for now; except regards to you and Phyllis. "Buz" Baer (Buz died the weekend of Brodhead '97, so my last correspondece with him was via email . . . . gem )

Crosby Kennett (1400 S. Collyer #88, Longmont CO 80501-6928) says "I have a suggestion. My idea is to create a small portfolio of photographs of construction details showing first-time builders "the Pietenpol way." Frequently I go through old newsletters looking for pictures to see how a certain detail goes together. Also, I suggest putting a full-page picture of a completed airplane in the newsletter "suitable for framing" as a sort of goal or source of encouragement for all of us. -- Thanks, Crosby" I like both ideas.. The first would be easy for me to do except for two things -- 1) making the decision as to what detail should be included in the collection and 2) finding the prototype to photograph. Any ideas? Your second idea we tried to do a few years with the 12 month picture calendars. If I could be guaranteed a minimum number of orders, I'd make them again but production costs versus sales revenue made it a very shaky situation. If anyone would like to underwrite a 1998 calendar (six pictures, two months per picture), let me know. You could have an "ad" on every page. . . . gem

5/23/97 Grant, You should be receiving my check for the BPAN and your info disk within the next few days. I started building ribs for my Pietenpol 20 years ago using info from the Flying and Glider Manual. My intent was to build parts for recreation and maybe when I retired, I would get serious about building the plane of my dreams. I retired from law enforcement two years ago and am making progress as planned. I have completed the ribs, tail feathers and fuselage woodwork. A few years ago, while returning from vacation, my wife and I took a side trip to the Mecca of the Pietenpol World; Cherry Grove MN. This was months after Bernie's passing. A gracious resident showed us around Bernie's shop and then gave us directions to the airfield. Upon arrival at the field, we parked our car on the road and walked to Bernie's hangar. A few minutes later a car pulled up to the hangar and a man got out. He identified himself as Don Pietenpol. Don explained that he was picking up a few items from the hangar before the EAA came to disassemble it and move it to Oshkosh. As I was examining a 2 foot piece of broken rib, Don said that I should take it with me. He also gave me two windshields. Prior to departing I gave Don a check for a set of plans. The rib piece and windshields will be used in my Pietenpol. I have been told that aluminum heads are still available for the Model A, and also, that someone is making and selling the metal fittings for the Pietenpol. Do you have any info on where I can get these items? Richard Hartwig (4503Baxter Rd., Cottage Grove WI 53527-9741 -- 608-839-5686 )

John Norman (14410 W Trading Post Drive, Sun City West AZ 85375) got a copy of my VHS tape "Model A Ford Powered Pietenpol Air Camper" and said, " I flew one with a Model "A" engine long-time ago. Also flew an "A"-powered Funk -- air cooled -- it ran HOT -- pre-WWII. Retired here in Del Webb SCW five years from Maryland. Not doing much flying. CFI-current; need a BFR? Jack

(6/10/97) Grant: I first contacted you in 1990 when I began collecting plans and literature for my Piet. With the arrival of my daughter in 92, my Piet money seemed to disappear. I suppose the project wouldn't be "official" unless it got put on hold for a while. Having finally gotten on the Internet, I stumbled on the Pietenpol home page. Wow, I could have saved a fortune in postage stamps if all this information had been available in one place. You have done a great job! I have carefully saved all the plans, literature and parts I built, just awaiting the time that I get re-bitten by the Piet bug. Seems your web page did it. I'll have to get some cap strips and start producing a few ribs now. I'll re-up my BPA membership by snail mail. Steven Perry

Richard Gillespie (2406 Kent Ave., Ft. Meyers FL 33907) is a pilot. He is building a GN-1; has the wing ribs completed.

(6/27/97) Dear Grant, I started building a Piet about eight years ago and over the June 21 weekend flew to Hampton NH airport where there was a Pietenpol fly-in. After seeing the Piets fly with the Model "A" engine, it renewed the fire in my gut to get things done. So here are my dues, and I'd like back issues Vol. 4, Nos. 31 - 40. Also have a 1967 Aero Commander 100 Darter for sale "to help fund the Piet building," 300 STOH, 2600 TTE&A VFR radios; a nice four-seater for only $16,500. Would consider flying to any of the lower 48 states for gas money. Please put this in your "Pietenpol stuff for sale or wanted" web page. It would be greatly appreciated. Your truly, Bill Dee Wade (797 Burdeck St., Schenectady NY 12306. Phone 518-355-4500, 863-2301 weekends)

Jeremy Visker (442 No. 200 East #6, Provo UT 84606) hopes to finish his Pietenpol by September, '97. (Thanks, Cherie, for the news.)

April 21, 1997 Dear Editor, Our EAA Chapter 1112 here in Oroville just recently was gifted with an eighty percent completed GN-1 Aircamper. Most of us being new to aircraft construction, particularly in the "wood and rag" category, would appreciate all the help and advise we can get on completing this magnificent craft. Three of us ventured up into the Sierra town of Quincy last weekend to view a completed Pietenpol, that was in it's final stages before becoming certified. While talking with the owner/builder we became acquainted with your fine publication on his plans desk. In so doing so, I acquired your address, enabling me to contact you. Would you Please send me subscription application and any other appertinate information that you may feel might help us in this project. I thank you for your kindness; Ron Turner (1050 Plumas Ave., Oroville CA. 95965)

Barry Davis (845 Pleasant Ridge Rd., Carrollton GA 30117) bought a Piet project; will make his first trip to Brodhead for the '97 gathering.

(7/22/97) email Grant- Am up and running on JUNO and am trying to figure all this wizardry out. So much to do and so little time. I have vowed to not spend too much time on the new machine as other things will suffer. Having said that, I do like to share and learn from others so this could be something else to juggle in my already busy life. The Piet is coming along slowly as I am working on the landing gear. Seems like I can work on it for days and not detect that anything is happening. I am getting close though. Can't wait to turn it back over so it doesn't look like a dead bug with it/s legs in the air. I am adding to my collection of useless parts, too. Remind others again that the plans are not necessarily the way things are in real life. I have an almost complete set of straight axle metal fittings that are to the plans but don't fit. Maybe it's just me . . . Don't know if I'll be at Brodhead this year as it will be around the same time my daughter will be delivered to college in Utah and I'm the deliverer. I'll be there in spirit , though. put my address on the list and keep up the terrific newsletter. I couldn't have done as much as I have without the BPA. Lawrence V. Williams

(7/23/97) email Grant, Just found out that I could access to E-mail here at work. Please send me a list of BPAers with E-mail addresses and add mine to the list. My Piet is coming along slow since I recently added number three child to the fleet! However, I have managed to get the elevators (flippers) built and a good start on the Garry Price version of the fuel tank. Next I plan to build the horizontal stabilizer, which will complete the tail section. Hope to start the fuselage next year. Thanks and regards, Bart D. Conrad

Tim Kevern (6313 Davis Road, Waxhaw NC 28173) has been gearing up to start his Piet's wing ribs, but a friend needs help with an RV-6, so the garage will be taken up with that project for a while. Tim says "Thanks for all your hard work on the newsletter. It always brightens things up when I see it in the mail box."

Heard from Charley Marcussen (127 Middlebrook Drive, Slidell LA 70458) in July. He won't be at Brodhead, but will try to get to Hernando this year.

Kevin Harvey (889 N. Watson Way, Eagle ID 83616) found our web site; has decided the Piet fits what he's looking for in an airplane.

(7/28/97) email - Grant, Just thought I would send an update on my Air Camper. It is almost complete! I have a to finish the cowling and a few other final assembly details, and then my 2.5 year project will be finished! I am about as excited as they come. The discussion group is going great and many topics are discussed which help out quite a bit. I have also moved my website if you would like to update your page to: http://steve.byu.edu. Steve Eldredge

(8/6/97) Hi Grant! Just wanted to send you a short note; this is the first year that Dan Breon & I made the trip to Oshkosh. We enjoyed it and saw many beautiful airplanes. We had hoped to get to Brodhead while we were there, but we ran out of money. However, we were fortunate enough to meet a fellow by the name of Keith Johnson, from Jackson, MS, who was kind enough to offer us a free ride to Brodhead. Well let me tell you, Brodhead was definitely the best part of our trip. We met lots of people, saw several beautiful Pietenpols, and just generally had a good time, and hopefully we'll be able to attend Brodhead next year as well. But none of this would have been possible without the generosity of Keith Johnson, so I want to extend a special thanks to him.

(8/6/97) Hi, Grant -- Brodhead was the best airplane get-togetehr I've been to in a long tiome! Troy and I had a great time. We learned a lot about the Piet and I feel a lot more confident about building a Piet. I was very surprized at how friendly the builders are to one another. "Big Jim" was just full of information and was glad to offer any answer to questions Troy and I had about the Piet. Dawayne had his Corvair Piet there and he was also very happy to give us deatails on what he did to his Piet and how it was done. After talking to these two guys and many, many others, I went looking for you. I wanted to join this group! These people made me feel right at home. I can now say I feel part of the group. I was able to answer some questions for other people because I've had some experinece working on Corvair engines. I am a licensed Master Mechanic and Inustrial Arts teacher. Well, Grant, I have to get back to work again. Thanks for everything. If you want, you can use this in your newsletter. Terry L. Chamberlin

(8/6/97) email - Hi again, Grant Well, I did find Brodhead O.K. That's a nice event! I wish I could have stayed a little longer Saturday afternoon. Sorry I didn't get to meet you personally. I got as far as asking someone where you may be and what you looked like, but in the time I had, I never hooked up with you before I left. The Pietenpol sure has a following of nice people. I also met Bill Rewey at Oshkosh who was manning his airplane and continously answering questions (many were mine) about the plane. He suggested that I start by getting the '32 Flying and Glider Manual at the EAA building, so I did. Boy, the article is worth reading for just for the nastalgia if for no other reason. I have my list for a possible project narrowed down quite a bit and the Piet is definately still in contention. The Piet is the one plane I'm considering that grabs historical excitement out of me when I think about it. (...is that good -- or do I need to seek professional help?) Anyway, my plans are to attend Brodhead next year and do research in the meantime. Keep up the good work. Bobby White (Rt. 7, Box 322AA, Harrison AR 72601) P.S. I was told that there are 2 or 3 Piets being built in Searcy, Arkansas. Do you know who I can contact to find out more? I really want to see some more planes in the building stages. Thanks.

John Nauerth III (RR 2, Box 21, Lakefield MN 56150) found an "A" engine in a barn -- still has the original shims under the main caps!

James Casperson has a new address -- 6100 Olde Wadsworth Blvd., Unit 1, Arvada CO 80003-5300.

Bill Marshall (6012 Timberwood Cir. #209, Ft. Myers FL 33908) started coveing last fall -- before going to FL. Fuselage and tail covered, still looking for a model "A" engine.

Russell Eberhardt (5236 Confederate Drive, Naples FL 34113) has his project about ready for cover -- after building lift struts. He's looking for a fuel tank and some brakes that'll work with his J-3 Cub wheels with 5" drums.

Douglas Skinner (7646 Barclay Ave., Charleston Hts. SC 29418-3206) attended the June, 1997 MARC (Model "A" Restorers Club) Convention in Dayton. He saw 700 Model "A's" and a wingless Piet there -- also Ford Trimotor #8419 was hopping rides.

Charles Hill (18177 NW 62nd Ct., Miami FL 33015) says he'll be at 12 Oaks in September. (I doubt if I'll make it this year, Charlie. . . . gem)

New member John Niemerg (613 W. Walnut, Teutopolis IL 62467) has an Ultralight; now he's thinking Pietenpol.

New member David Atnip (Rt. 3, Box 159A, Jenkins MO 65605) finished his Piet in July of '96. It's powered with a Cont. 65.

For me, one of the highlights of Brodhead '97 was chatting with B.H. Pietenpol's personal physician; Dr. R.W Matson (Rt. 1, Box 185, Spring Valley MN 55975). We chatted a bit about a number of things, including Dr. Matson's two-manual, eight-rank theater pipe organ installed at the Matson home in Spring Valley. . . . gem

(8/23/97) email - Hi Grant Just wanted to let you know that I sold my project as a result of your mention in 4sale section of BPA Internet page. Thanks I really appreciate it. Still retain my interest in Pietenpols but old age can't be denied. The new owner is Danny Lee PO Box 1110, Muldrow, OK 74948. I gave him all my old newsletters, so you won't have to send him these. Suggest you send him membership info to get him in the fold. Warren Lueders

(7/28/97) email from Jonathan D. Ross (PO Box 569, Northpoff, NY 11768) (516) 261-1842 Fax (516) 261- 7214 Dear Grant, Enclosed please find $20.00, as payment for renewal of my BPA membership for the next two years. The red marker you use, along with the "Dues are Due" notice are both excellent reminders. (Seems to work for some, Jonathan . . . gem) The web page looks better all the time, along with an increasing web presence that Pietenpols are enjoying lately. My RV-8 project is progressing well, and is chewing up more money and time than any plans built Pietenpol ever would. 28K for an IO-360 Lycoming! Still, I think ofthe Piet I'll someday build when my hangar neighbor fires up his Escort powered Piet. The thing is, I've got a fresh OSMOH A-75 Continental, along ~th enough spruce & steel sitting in my basement just waiting for the Piet.

6/21/97 Dear Grant, I received issue 56 yesterday and realized it was high time I got a check off in the mail. Please keep me on your subscription list for a couple more years and let me know when you initiate a life-time subscription policy. (Whose life, Dennis? . . . gem) Maybe you noticed the New Source Of Aircraft Wood in the June, 1997 issue of Sport Aviation. Take a look at page 9. A West Coast firm known as R.A.W. Resources LLC is offering Westem Red Cedar, Alaska Yellow Cedar, Sitka Spruce, Redwood, Sugar Pine and Port Orford Cedar. Lumber is certified for aircraft use. Phone: 916/333-4112; fax: 916/333-2843

Glad to see that Lee Stenson and Don Campbell are taking the reins at Brodhead. I saw Lee during the winter months as he came to Richland Center to purchase some ash for a future Bleriot project. I am looking forward to August 1 with anticipation. Who knows? Maybe the rush from the event, the necessary spare time, and the encouragement of friends will get me immersed in a project. Best regards, Dennis Smith

Grant, Enclosed is a check in the amount of $20.00 for two more years. I received my plans from Don Pietenpol the first of May and have the fuselage about 75% complete and sitting on sawhorses for now. The next order of construction will be to start the metal fittings and wood struts for the solid axle landing gear so I can roll the Piet to next door storage if required. My wife would like to use the construction hanger (her garage) in case a Kansas hail storm threatens. If I can continue to spend several hours three or four nights a week and one day most weekends, I should be able to make good progress until cold weather sets in. Carroll Shoup (1200 North 14th Arkansas City, Ks 67005)

August 2, 1997 - Grant MacLaren, As you know, I just joined the BPA, enclosed find my order for your new VHS videotape "The Model A Ford Powered Pietenpol Air Camper." As I am a retired Airline Captain with over 20,000 hours and over 8,000 in the DC-8 as Captain, I feel its time to slow down and fly low. Nothing to see at 30,000 feet anyway. I am going the full route with the Model A Power and the great radiator and wire wheels. Cheers Robert L. Cox Note: I picked up an A&P License years ago, no doubt this will help now.

Here's a late August email from New Zealand -- Grant, I am trying to locate the owner and/or builder of a Pietenpol that was powered by a Mercedes Diesel engine. I have built a Maranda Super 14 (Canadian Designed - Chris Falconar of Falconar Avia) and powered it with a Nissan 2.8 litre Turbocharged diesel I've developed and have to date flown it for 47.8 hrs. I would really appreciate it if you can help me as I would like to share notes and experiences with him/her/them that could be of great advantage of all of us. Thank you, Gavin Grimmer Hastings New Zealand -- Gavin, I have a picture of that installation (not sure I know where), but never saw the airplane. I have heard it made it to OshKosh once -- maybe 15 years ago, maybe more. I'll ask in the newsletter for you -- maybe one of our members will know. . . . gem

Gavin, meet Bob, who emailed this: You mentioned that there was once a Pietenpol with a diesel installed but it was too heavy so another engine was substituted with success. Does anyone have the name of the person who built this particular Pietenpol and how I might be able to contact him? Bob Voll 703-237-6256 Falls Church, Virginia) -- Bob, If I said it was too heavy, I was probably quoting someone who told me so. I don't know if it was heavy or not and I don't know the name of the person who built the ship. But, it would seem that since I've heard only one report of its sighting (at Oshkosh) it may not have been a success. (There was once a twin-engine Corvair powered Air Camper, too! Haven't seen too many since. All this reminds me of one Pietenpol wag at Brodhead '97 who said, "Y'know, Grant, with a heck of a lot of work and plain perseverance, even a very bad idea can be made to work . . . just think about all those diesel- and steam-powered automobiles that have come and gone." . . . gem

Subj: Flying Farmer Date: Mon, Sep 22, 1997 10:35 PM EDT From: mtsee@complink.net (mtsee) Grant: I've been a "Piet" member for some time. My age caught up with me so chances are slim of ever completing a rib kit I have in the barn. Who knows? May start at 71. Anyhow, I love your internet story on the "flying farmer. " So much I linked it to my senior citizen graffitti home page. I hope you don't mind and I hope you do not take it off. I have had several people tell me they liked it. I was up in Broadhead in '92 I think it was. rode up on an '81 750 cc Virago. First motorcycle trip in near 40 years. The newsletter keeps me enough in touch with aviation to suit me and I am an old "shade tree mechanic" (amongst other things) so who knows? Thanks, Merrill T. See (Kalamazoo, MI)

Subj: Web Page Date: Tue, Sep 23, 1997 4:19 PM EDT From: ramirezb@t-online.de - Hi, I thouroughly enjoyed your web page. I am in the military stationed in Germany. I'm currently flying AH-64 Apaches, but plan on starting a Pietenpol project sometime next year after a little more research. Your page has helped point my nose in the right direction. Thanks! Berny Ramirez


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